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'''''"Letting people INTO the group at large '''''<br>
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'''''is the key to every great movement and '''''<br>
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'''''bettered culture on this planet. '''''<br>
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'''''This was the new idea that made Buddhism '''''<br>
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'''''the strongest civilizing influence the''''' <br>
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'''''world has seen in terms of numbers and''''' <br>
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'''''terrain. They did not exclude ...''''' <br>
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'''''The Catholic Church only began to fail'''''<br>
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'''''when it began to exclude"'''''<br>
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'''L. Ron Hubbard'''
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'''HCO Policy Letter 14th December 1970 -- GROUP SANITY'''<br>
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''Today I came across An Open Letter by the Niece of David Miscavige Jenna Miscavige Hill on disconnection and the lies by OSA-PR about it and decided to repost it here as it fits very well into the picture: David Miscavige even disconnected from his family, i.e. the whole family of his brother Ronnie Miscavige[http://ronmiscavige.lnfre.com/falcon/webui/lnfaboutme.aspx] (former Marketing Exec Int of the Int Management of the Church of Scientology International), who left the Church 8 years ago. The enforced disconnection is a hardship for every Scientology family and a destruction of Scientology itself and in grave contradiction to LRH policy.''
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''This is an open letter published on a scientology discussion board[http://groups.google.ch/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/49742373277e277f?dmode=source] from a relative of an Ex-Staff member and close relative of the Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige.''
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''How can D.M. expand Scientology, if he is not even capable to keep his family in communication?''
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'''Andreas Grosz'''
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P.S.
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In this letter she also publishs the fact, that Mike Rinder is not any more the head of OSA Int: Office of Special Affairs.
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Here you read the open letter of '''Jenna Miscavige Hill''' - the daughter of Ronnie Miscavige and the niece of D.M. COB of RTC to Karin Pouw, spokesperson for official Scientology/OSA Int:
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"Dear Karin,
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"I could not resist the opportunity to write you this letter having read your official rebuttal regarding the Tom Cruise biography.
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"I have been involved in the Church of Scientology since birth. David Miscavige as you well know is my father's brother, making him my uncle.
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"In fact you and I actually know each other although not very well.
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"I cannot comment on your responses regarding the personal life of Tom
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Cruise because I know nothing about this, but I am absolutely shocked
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at how vehemently you insist upon not only denying the truths that
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have been stated about the Church in that biography, but then take it
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a step further and tell outright lies.
 +
 
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"You go so far as to state:
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''7. Does Scientology encourage their members not to speak to their family if they don't support the religion?''
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''This allegation is not only false, it is the opposite of what the Church believes and practices.' -Karin Pouw''
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"As you well know, my parents officially left the Church when I was 16
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in 2000. I, having been separated from them at the age of 12 and
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thoroughly engulfed in the beliefs of the Church since birth decided
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not to go with them.
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"Not only was I not allowed to speak to them, I was not allowed to
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answer a phone for well over a year, in case it was them calling me.
 +
To give exact specifics, this "law" was enforced ruthlessly by one
 +
Tracye Danilovoch - the local representative for the Religious
 +
Technology Center - who intercepted all letters from my parents (and
 +
my friends). She would then pass them on to Marc Rathbun (the then 2nd
 +
in command of the Church) and Mike Rinder - who happens to be the
 +
former head of YOUR office - "The Office of Special Affairs" (you can
 +
thank me later for not elaborating on this one). Only after they had
 +
seen the letters and decided it was ok for me to see them would I
 +
receive some of them while sitting in a board room while they watched
 +
me read them and asked me to comment on them.
 +
 
 +
"I was allowed to visit my parents from the age of 16-22, once a year
 +
for a maximum of 3-4 days, but that was only after they (my parents)
 +
threatened legal action if the Church got in the way of this and even
 +
then only after I underwent a "Security Check Confessional" before I
 +
saw them and immediately after I came back. A security check is
 +
interrogation (usually about if I intend on leaving the Church, or
 +
finding out if my parents have said anything bad about the Church,
 +
etc.) while being attached to an electrophsychometer which is similar
 +
to a lie detector. This happened every single time I saw then (which
 +
was never more than 3 or 4 days a year).
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 +
"For a more recent example of families being destroyed, My Aunt
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Jennifer Pantermeuhl has recently contacted my parents and let them
 +
know that she can no longer speak to them or be in contact with them
 +
because they speak to and live near, my other Aunt Sarah Mortland.
 +
Sarah is my mom's and Jennifer's sister. This is because Sarah is not
 +
in favor with the Church. Jennifer also contacted my brother Sterling
 +
as well as the rest of the family for the same reason most of whom had
 +
to lie to her and said they weren't talking to Sarah for fear of
 +
getting found out about.
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 +
"Another good example would be when my other brother, Justin, was in
 +
Florida a few years ago and was on his way to visit our Aunt Denise
 +
Gentile (our father's sister and David Miscavige's twin) with his
 +
girlfriend. Denise abruptly cancelled while they were on their way
 +
over because the Church would not approve - because he was an ex-
 +
member. Not to mention the fact that Kirsten Caetano (a member of the
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Church's Office of Special Affairs - the very same organization you
 +
belong to) was contacting Justin several times when he was in Florida
 +
working, telling him that he needed to leave the state because he is
 +
an ex-member and his presence at the "mecca of scientology" was
 +
disturbing to the church. Kristen has admitted to my face that she did
 +
this when I confronted her and even went so far as to admit that she
 +
lied to my brother after denying the incident. This is the least of
 +
what Kirsten Caetano has done!
 +
 
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"You cite this quote from L.Ron Hubbard about what the Church believes
 +
with regards to families..... yes we know what the Church claims to
 +
"believe" and has written in its policies! - BUT do they practice
 +
that? Absolutely not!
 +
 
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"I can name at least 5 friends off the top of my head who's family
 +
members are not allowed to speak to them without being themselves
 +
ousted from the Church and prevented from communicating with other
 +
members of their family and even their children still involved in the
 +
Church lest THEY too be ousted! They cant speak to their children
 +
because they have left the Church on their own determinism. This is a
 +
widespread practice and if you dare deny it I have a list of all of
 +
there names together-these people's families  are crying  every day
 +
because they can't speak to their children who did nothing but leave
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the Church of their own free will.
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"If I am in fact wrong and you want to prove me as such, then allow me
 +
and my family to be in contact with our family members that are still
 +
part of the Church such as my Grandpa, Ron Miscavige, and his wife,
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Becky. Allow the same of my friends. And don't even start with the,
 +
"it's their choice all along story..." -nobody is going to buy that,
 +
there are way too many destroyed families for that to be true.
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"I am tempted to take up many of the other accusations you
 +
categorically deny in your novel, but for the purpose of keeping this
 +
letter readable and focused on the most important part (family) I will
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resist.
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"I will suggest however that maybe you should spend the manpower and
 +
time of drafting your masterpiece rebuttal - why don't you take the
 +
high road for once and put that time towards repairing the families
 +
you have destroyed, starting with the family of David Miscavige
 +
himself - hell, if Scientology can't keep his family together - then
 +
why on earth should anyone believe the Church helps bring families
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together!
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Best,
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'''Jenna Miscavige Hill'''"
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[Category:Disconnection]]

Revision as of 22:36, 29 January 2008

"Letting people INTO the group at large
is the key to every great movement and
bettered culture on this planet.
This was the new idea that made Buddhism
the strongest civilizing influence the
world has seen in terms of numbers and
terrain. They did not exclude ...
The Catholic Church only began to fail
when it began to exclude"

L. Ron Hubbard HCO Policy Letter 14th December 1970 -- GROUP SANITY


Today I came across An Open Letter by the Niece of David Miscavige Jenna Miscavige Hill on disconnection and the lies by OSA-PR about it and decided to repost it here as it fits very well into the picture: David Miscavige even disconnected from his family, i.e. the whole family of his brother Ronnie Miscavige[1] (former Marketing Exec Int of the Int Management of the Church of Scientology International), who left the Church 8 years ago. The enforced disconnection is a hardship for every Scientology family and a destruction of Scientology itself and in grave contradiction to LRH policy.

This is an open letter published on a scientology discussion board[2] from a relative of an Ex-Staff member and close relative of the Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige.

How can D.M. expand Scientology, if he is not even capable to keep his family in communication?

Andreas Grosz

P.S. In this letter she also publishs the fact, that Mike Rinder is not any more the head of OSA Int: Office of Special Affairs.


Here you read the open letter of Jenna Miscavige Hill - the daughter of Ronnie Miscavige and the niece of D.M. COB of RTC to Karin Pouw, spokesperson for official Scientology/OSA Int:



"Dear Karin,

"I could not resist the opportunity to write you this letter having read your official rebuttal regarding the Tom Cruise biography.

"I have been involved in the Church of Scientology since birth. David Miscavige as you well know is my father's brother, making him my uncle.

"In fact you and I actually know each other although not very well.

"I cannot comment on your responses regarding the personal life of Tom Cruise because I know nothing about this, but I am absolutely shocked at how vehemently you insist upon not only denying the truths that have been stated about the Church in that biography, but then take it a step further and tell outright lies.

"You go so far as to state:

7. Does Scientology encourage their members not to speak to their family if they don't support the religion?

This allegation is not only false, it is the opposite of what the Church believes and practices.' -Karin Pouw

"As you well know, my parents officially left the Church when I was 16 in 2000. I, having been separated from them at the age of 12 and thoroughly engulfed in the beliefs of the Church since birth decided not to go with them.

"Not only was I not allowed to speak to them, I was not allowed to answer a phone for well over a year, in case it was them calling me. To give exact specifics, this "law" was enforced ruthlessly by one Tracye Danilovoch - the local representative for the Religious Technology Center - who intercepted all letters from my parents (and my friends). She would then pass them on to Marc Rathbun (the then 2nd in command of the Church) and Mike Rinder - who happens to be the former head of YOUR office - "The Office of Special Affairs" (you can thank me later for not elaborating on this one). Only after they had seen the letters and decided it was ok for me to see them would I receive some of them while sitting in a board room while they watched me read them and asked me to comment on them.

"I was allowed to visit my parents from the age of 16-22, once a year for a maximum of 3-4 days, but that was only after they (my parents) threatened legal action if the Church got in the way of this and even then only after I underwent a "Security Check Confessional" before I saw them and immediately after I came back. A security check is interrogation (usually about if I intend on leaving the Church, or finding out if my parents have said anything bad about the Church, etc.) while being attached to an electrophsychometer which is similar to a lie detector. This happened every single time I saw then (which was never more than 3 or 4 days a year).

"For a more recent example of families being destroyed, My Aunt Jennifer Pantermeuhl has recently contacted my parents and let them know that she can no longer speak to them or be in contact with them because they speak to and live near, my other Aunt Sarah Mortland. Sarah is my mom's and Jennifer's sister. This is because Sarah is not in favor with the Church. Jennifer also contacted my brother Sterling as well as the rest of the family for the same reason most of whom had to lie to her and said they weren't talking to Sarah for fear of getting found out about.

"Another good example would be when my other brother, Justin, was in Florida a few years ago and was on his way to visit our Aunt Denise Gentile (our father's sister and David Miscavige's twin) with his girlfriend. Denise abruptly cancelled while they were on their way over because the Church would not approve - because he was an ex- member. Not to mention the fact that Kirsten Caetano (a member of the Church's Office of Special Affairs - the very same organization you belong to) was contacting Justin several times when he was in Florida working, telling him that he needed to leave the state because he is an ex-member and his presence at the "mecca of scientology" was disturbing to the church. Kristen has admitted to my face that she did this when I confronted her and even went so far as to admit that she lied to my brother after denying the incident. This is the least of what Kirsten Caetano has done!

"You cite this quote from L.Ron Hubbard about what the Church believes with regards to families..... yes we know what the Church claims to "believe" and has written in its policies! - BUT do they practice that? Absolutely not!

"I can name at least 5 friends off the top of my head who's family members are not allowed to speak to them without being themselves ousted from the Church and prevented from communicating with other members of their family and even their children still involved in the Church lest THEY too be ousted! They cant speak to their children because they have left the Church on their own determinism. This is a widespread practice and if you dare deny it I have a list of all of there names together-these people's families are crying every day because they can't speak to their children who did nothing but leave the Church of their own free will.

"If I am in fact wrong and you want to prove me as such, then allow me and my family to be in contact with our family members that are still part of the Church such as my Grandpa, Ron Miscavige, and his wife, Becky. Allow the same of my friends. And don't even start with the, "it's their choice all along story..." -nobody is going to buy that, there are way too many destroyed families for that to be true.

"I am tempted to take up many of the other accusations you categorically deny in your novel, but for the purpose of keeping this letter readable and focused on the most important part (family) I will resist.

"I will suggest however that maybe you should spend the manpower and time of drafting your masterpiece rebuttal - why don't you take the high road for once and put that time towards repairing the families you have destroyed, starting with the family of David Miscavige himself - hell, if Scientology can't keep his family together - then why on earth should anyone believe the Church helps bring families together!

Best,

Jenna Miscavige Hill"

[Category:Disconnection]]